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December 04, 2007
John Hawkins The 2nd Annual Worst Quotes From The Daily Kos (2007 Edition)

America's most influential blog is the Daily Kos. Democratic members of Congress post on the blog, Democratic presidential contenders cater to them, and Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas is considered to be a mainstream figure amongst Democrats.

Keep all of that in mind as you read these excerpts and quotes, all of which come from the Daily Kos writers, not from commenters on the blog:

10) "I wrote a diary a short time ago about how the Bush administration helped ruin my marriage. It wasn't because my husband was a Bush supporter or anything...it was because of all the stresses from job loses, living without health insurance and getting sick, to my husband being forced to take a job where he wasn't home much that helped ruin my marriage." -- angrybird

9) Islamic Countries Can Suck Jesus's Chocolate Covered C***

...Meanwhile, over here in this part of never, never land, the Catholic crazies are all freaked out over a chocolate Jesus. So what????????

I just don't get it. I'm being literal. I don't understand what's offensive about a chocolate Jesus. Maybe I didn't read the part of the Bible that talks about not making graven images of the Lord in chocolate (and it's possible, since the Bible has so many other things that are institutionally nuts I wouldn't rule it out). Why does anyone care that it's in chocolate?

...The other part of this so-called chocolate Jesus controversy is his c*ck. Apparently he has one. Someone hide the children. It turns out humans have d*cks. No, you don't say.

My guess is that if Jesus actually existed he would get a good belly laugh out of people being offended that he had a penis. Yeah, don't worry about feeding the poor or anything. Just obsess over Jesus's chocolate covered penis. I'm sure that's what the good Lord would have wanted.

So, is the argument that Jesus didn't have a d*ck?" -- Cenk Uygur

8) "I know I'm a Jewish lesbian and (Ahmadinejad would) probably have me killed. But still, the guy speaks some blunt truths about the Bush Administration that make me swoon...

Okay, I admit it. Part of it is that he just looks cuddly. Possibly cuddly enough to turn me straight. I think he kind of looks like Kermit the Frog. Sort of. With smaller eyes. But that's not all...

I want to be very clear. There are certainly many things about Ahmadinejad that I abhor -- locking up dissidents, executing of gay folks, denying the fact of the Holocaust, potentially adding another dangerous nuclear power to the world and, in general, stifling democracy. Even still, I can't help but be turned on by his frank rhetoric calling out the horrors of the Bush Administration and, for that matter, generations of US foreign policy preceding." -- sallykohn

7) "When *ss-kissing chickensh*t David Petraeus lied his *ss off before Congress about the failed "surge", capitol hill police tackled and arrested a pentecostal minister, damaging his ankle in the process.

...If you think America isn't undergoing the same slide into fascist dictatorship today as Germany did in the 1930s, you're kidding yourself.

...Those two reasons, more than the brutal assaults on people and the First Amendment, are why America is devolving into a bad replay of Nazi Germany. The lack of national outrage, to the point we do something about it; and the support of it by mindless groupthinkers in society who are so stupid they think it's a good thing that we're being subjected to tyranny." -- Archangel M

6) "Is Congress being blackmailed by W.H.?

Is it spinelessness, political caution (to get Ind. voters in 2008), financial profiteering from Mil/Ind Complex investments, lack of conviction, or simply not being good at stopping Rethug's from blocking legislation that makes our Congress ineffectual? Or is there another, more nefarious, reason for their inability to stand up to White House?

I made a comment, earlier, about how Pelosi talked tough to W.H. but, then, backed down on everything. Senate can't put up any real fights, either. Couldn't even nab Gonzo. Now we get the FISA-Telecomm deal. I got to wondering if lots of Dem. Congress People are being blackmailed. That would explain a lot of folding and playing dead. Wireless surveillance could have been done on our House/Senate people, learning things that Rove could use, and now they're afraid. Maybe they were even quietly threatened with plantings of drugs, kid porn, gay porn, National Review...that kind of sorted thing. You get tagged with any of this stuff and your career is over." --rainmanjr

5) "I have never in my 50 years of life been more frightened then I am now. I have seen the arrogance of this White House and the massive damage done to our country. But the Katrina-size storm clouds are gathering folks. If we do not wake up now and flood Congress to impeach the President and Vice President, one year from now, Daily Kos may be banned and Markos himself may be disappeared, in a federal prison somewhere.

....This is deadly serious folks. This is not just another diary. We ignore this threat at our own peril. I would suggest even I in writing articles like this and the many writers at Daily Kos are personally at risk of being arrested in a future dictatorial United States. The government will use these writings as an excuse to put us away.

....I say WAKE UP Daily Kos!! If the people at Daily Kos cannot take this seriously and try and do something about it, then the United States, as a free country IS doomed. Enjoy your freedom to read and write at such sites as Daily Kos, because that freedom will be taken away WHEN Bush declares martial law." -- slw0606

4) "And anyone -- Liebercrat or Republican -- who stands to oppose impeachment, conviction and removal should be tried for their role as accomplice in the sedition and treason against the United States. No more should they be permitted to hide behind snivelling protocols and talk out both sides of their mouths -- either they are with the nation, or they are part of the criminal conspiracy currently thwarting the will of both Congress and the People." -- GreyHawk

3) "...We need to lose this war and not start the next one so that we can remain a free people. Diminished on the world stage? Perhaps, like Great Britain was diminished when it surrendered its colonial empire. But free." -- bluedogtxn

2) The parallels are undeniable, and I see only one solution if America, The Grand Experiment, is to survive.

I want to stand by and watch it all blow up.

I want the dollar to plunge to worthless paper.

I want the stock market to implode.

I want the economy to plunge into chaos.

I want the Chinese to call in all the debt they hold.

I want an economic meltdown of such staggering proportion that even that idiot on Bill Moyer's Journal who does not know the difference between a State Constitution and the United States Constitution, is forced to look around in mild surprise and wonder what the hell happened.

Only total economic destruction will get the attention of the fools.

...And I want it now, before this inept, self-serving Congress allows the Facists one more opportunity to fully convert this from the United States of America, into the 4th Reich." -- Granny Doc

1) "But do I still support the individual men and women who have given so much to serve their country? No. I think they're a bunch of idiots. I also think they're morally retarded. Because they sign a contract that says they will kill whoever you tell me to kill. And that is morally retarded.

Friends, the most important moral decision a man makes in the course of a day is "Who am I going to kill today?" That's a decision you should agonize over, dream about, rehearse in your mind for hours, not just leave up to some hare-brained President you didn't even vote for.

A man's killing list is a very personal matter. It should be between him and those persistent voices in his head. So to sum up, I don't like our troops, I don't like what they're doing, I don't like their fat, whining families, and yet, I support them. Thank God I live in a free country. Thank You." -- AWhitneyBrown

Also see,

The Worst Quotes From The Daily Kos For 2006

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It is very difficult to read those first thing in the morning, because the realization hits that these are real people.
Bush ruined my marriage is my favorite, no personal responsibility. How do these people make it out of puberty?
They never did make it out of puberty.

Cue the apologists now, "Your Cherry picking!"

Multiply those thoughts by a few million and that is probably the number of brainwashed hard core leftists who really hate this nation and economic freedom. Unfortunately a lot of them, like Mark Cuban , and the Hollywood left, are wealthy and influential.
"I don't particularly like it when people put words in my mouth, either, by the way, unless I say it."—Crawford, Texas, Nov. 10, 2007

Talk about funny quotes.....
" Maybe they were even quietly threatened with plantings of drugs, kid porn, gay porn, National Review...

I'm sorry, but it has to be said:


"Liberalism is a mental disorder."


These people are fucking insane.

There is a logical disconnect in the Leftist mind (such as it is). They bemoan their perception that America is becoming a fascist country trampling on everyones Constitutional rights yet none of them have been imprisoned or sent to the "re-education camps" for saying those things in a public forum. If they were really interested in the preservation of the First Amendment they'd be screaming bloody murder about the Dems proposal to re-institute the Fairness Doctrine (talk about an oxymoron).
They bemoan their perception that America is becoming a fascist country trampling on everyones Constitutional rights yet none of them have been imprisoned or sent to the "re-education camps" for saying those things in a public forum.


Worse.. they bemoan their perception that America is becoming a fascist nation while assaulting speakers with whom they disagree, promoting hatred of those whom they oppose politically, and doing everything humanly possible to turn us into a fascist nation.
"...they bemoan their perception that America is becoming a fascist nation while assaulting speakers with whom they disagree, promoting hatred of those whom they oppose politically, and doing everything humanly possible to turn us into a fascist nation.

Posted by CavalierX
December 4, 2007 7:48 AM | "

Here's a good explanation:


"It was only *after* the soviet regime became unmistakably totalitarian that English intellectuals, in large numbers,
began to show interest in it," Orwell wrote. "Burnham is really voicing their secret wish: the wish to destroy the old equalitarian version of Socialism and usher in a hierarchical society where the intellectual can at last get his hands on the whip."
-George Orwell
"Burnham is really voicing their secret wish: the wish to destroy the old equalitarian version of Socialism and usher in a hierarchical society where the intellectual can at last get his hands on the whip."


Well, that's the root of the problem: so-called "intellectuals" support totalitarianism because they think they'll be in charge after the glorious revolution. In reality -- although these people have no concept of or connection to reality -- they'll be the first ones up against the wall.
Posted by CavalierX
December 4, 2007 8:13 AM

Precisely. You think Stalin was an "intellectual"? Hell no. He was an opportunistic, sociopathic thug who used those idealistic "useful idiots" to put himself in a position to take control. Once again proving, much to the intectuals' chagrin, that the guy with the guns and the will to use them is always the one in charge.
Oh, and about the quotes...
First off, these are all mentally deficient morons; nothing more really needs to be said about them.
Secondly, it is inane shite like THIS that causes anyone not inflicted with BDS to question the Left's (sanity and) patriotism. Perhaps y'all should go over there and try to reason with them... LOL, as if that would ever happen.
Precisely. You think Stalin was an "intellectual"? Hell no. He was an opportunistic, sociopathic thug who used those idealistic "useful idiots" to put himself in a position to take control. Once again proving, much to the intectuals' chagrin, that the guy with the guns and the will to use them is always the one in charge.

Posted by Good_Ol_Boy December 4, 2007 8:33 AM


Also, rememebr that one of Stalin's purges was against, The Intellectuals. That is what makes Liberals' positions so mind-numbingly stupid. If they get their way and institute the type of government they want, they themselves will become the victims of it.

Posted by Good_Ol_Boy
December 4, 2007 8:41 AM

You know, there is a theory, that if you were to throw yourself at a wall an infinite amount of times, eventually all the atoms of your body and the atoms of the wall would be in perfect alignment and you would pass right through it. I consider that possibility of higher probability then getting a reasonable conversation out of the insane such as depicted above.

We say it all the time, liberalism is a mental disorder and one that probably cannot be treated as logic no longer exists in their fantasy world.
“The man who sets dogs on concentration camp victims or fires his revolver into the back of their necks is evidently a brute; the intellectual who devises justifications for the brutality is harder to deal with, and far more sinister in the long run.”

- David Pryce-Jones

Posted by StanW
December 4, 2007 8:45 AM |

No that is not the worst of it Stan. After they become victims. After they are taken out and "put up on the wall". A short time later some "intellectual" somewhere else will be saying that it will be a utopia. They would not learn anything from it. They did not learn anything form Russia.. Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, Cuba, I could go on and on about dictators. Why is it we call these idiots "Intellectuals" when they are so stupid??
They do have some great ideas. If only we could get congress and a few judges to go along with arresting these idiots. LOL
I have to agree with mipt's initial statement...perhaps the worst thing about all this is that these people actually exist.
I wonder if THEY even believe what they're saying? It looks more like they're trying to have some kind of "who can say the most insane thing" contest.
Posted by RAA
December 4, 2007 9:17 AM

LOL. You've got one wicked sense of humor.
The reality is that not only do these people exist, but they have the ability to WIN elections.

The USA will be destroyed in the same way the Roman Empire was destroyed.

This country was founded on Christian beliefs. Read the state constitutions of the early states. Read the Mayflower Compact.

We, as a nation, have turned our back against God and allowed evil and perverted people to keep our children from hearing the Word of God.

We will reap what we sow. This country is so screwed... the writing is on the wall and it isn't written in English.

Maybe they were even quietly threatened with plantings of drugs, kid porn, gay porn, National Review...that kind of sorted thing. You get tagged with any of this stuff and your career is over.


So... I should hide my National Review issues if I ever want to run for office? =( I say nobody should be able to run for office unless they HAVE read at least one issue of National Review. (well, if they are GOP ;-)


Secondly, it is inane shite like THIS that causes anyone not inflicted with BDS to question the Left's (sanity and) patriotism. Perhaps y'all should go over there and try to reason with them... LOL, as if that would ever happen.


Well, a lot of liberal sites will ban you if you attempt to talk rationally to others. (exhibit A: DU) The most I've ever been able to talk to any of them is on olbermannwatch. (search results here)
Some commentators were a pleasure to debate, others were just crazy. (such as...)

"He claimed to have enough saved away that even his grandkids would never have to work.

Now I bring this up to say simply that the fact that I find it admiriable that people who might lack some skills can find a place in the military and even succeed at it."


Grim gets misty eyed over the success-story of a self-described mercenary.

Grim, you are bizzarre, amoral person, but thank you for your candor.
Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at December 18, 2006 2:29 PM
Why is it we call these idiots "Intellectuals" when they are so stupid??

Posted by ninerdog December 4, 2007 9:09 AM


They have annointed themselves "intellectuals" based upon their superior... hubris!

They think themselves to be wise, when all around then look and say, "You Fool!".
I read Angrybird's little diary about her situation. What drives me nuts about most people in her situation is she never once sees how her own decisions contributed to her situation. As near as I can tell she and her husband have no kids but she has not worked at any point during her ordeal. When her husband had his job she was "pursuing her art". Nice deal if you can get it.
Her current profile says she is a "culinary arts" student. What, she can't get a job now? I would not be surprised if her local Wal*Mart or Meijer was hiring (she's in Michigan as near as I can tell). Nope, better to beg for money on Kos (which she does on several occasions) and blame Mr. Bush.

Neal Boortz has a line he uses every so often: "Your position in life is the sum total of the decisions you have made up to now"
Someone should save those and go drop them back on Daily Kos at oppertune moments. Several of them are just prophetic enough you could do it.

It's wonder any of these people can find the will to continue in such a horrible world.
I want to read these quotes but I fear I would lose several IQ points in the process.
Do they really want America to disintegrate? Because if that does happen, the changed environment in America probably wouldn't be so tolerant to the deranged who sit in their basements tracking plots while enjoying the blanket of freedom and security America provides.

It is all hyperbole. They don't actually want that trust fund to disappear into an electronic ether of numbers which would mean no food, no housing, and no electricity to run their computers. They just want to be in CHARGE!
Ahh, I had forgotten about the Catholic fatwa against the chocolate Jesus. You know the gallery owner received death threats over the exhibit.

Everyone who supported the publishing of the Prophet Mohammed cartoons (which I did) supported this exhibit, also, right?

Ahh, I had forgotten about the Catholic fatwa against the chocolate Jesus. You know the gallery owner received death threats over the exhibit.

Everyone who supported the publishing of the Prophet Mohammed cartoons (which I did) supported this exhibit, also, right?

Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay
December 4, 2007 11:32 AM |


I might disagree with the gallery owner's choice. Think he should be mocked or ridiculed or generally "punished" by social methods common to all human societies.

Should he/she be executed? no.
Should he/she be threatened with death? no.
Should he/she stand up to unreasonable bullies? yes.

Just like with the mohammed cartoons.
Everyone who supported the publishing of the Prophet Mohammed cartoons (which I did) supported this exhibit, also, right?


As a free speech issue? Sure. He had the legal right to make a naked chocolate Jesus.

What he DIDN'T have a right to do is force the tax payers to finance his "exhibit" (it's been a while so I don't recall whether the exhibit was publicly funded or not).
You know the gallery owner received death threats over the exhibit.

Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay December 4, 2007 11:32 AM


Sorry, I remember protests and editorials. I do not recall any death threats. Can you provide a link?
Sorry, I remember protests and editorials. I do not recall any death threats. Can you provide a link?


How dare you ask for proof? You must be one of those dangerous Cathofascists or something.
Sorry, I remember protests and editorials. I do not recall any death threats. Can you provide a link?

Posted by StanW
December 4, 2007 11:44 AM |


I actually give him the benefit of a doubt Stan just because there are a few unhinged people in every religion who use the faith to justify any action they wish to take.

The difference is, in Christianity, this appears to be an exception, in Islam it is the rule?
Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay
December 4, 2007 11:32 AM

Your comparison is ridiculous, TpD, and you know it. That's coming from a nonChristian.
When was the last time a Christian killed someone for mocking Christianity here in America? Please cite an instance of that occurring for me. When was the last time Christians rioted in the streets over an insult (percieved or otherwise) to their religion? How many cars and buildings did they set ablaze?
Your attempt at equivocation is laughable, but yeah the "artist" had the right to creat Chocolate Jesus and the gallery owner had the right to display it. No question about it.
"The hotel and the gallery were overrun Thursday with angry phone calls and e-mails about the exhibit. Semler said the calls included death threats over the work of Cavallaro, who was described as disappointed by the cancellation."


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262602,00.html

Samurai, the exhibit was privately funded.
I actually give him the benefit of a doubt Stan just because there are a few unhinged people in every religion who use the faith to justify any action they wish to take.

The difference is, in Christianity, this appears to be an exception, in Islam it is the rule?

Posted by Challenger_Grim December 4, 2007 11:48 AM


While Pinko may (In Your Opinion) deserve the benefit of the doubt, I would still like proof. As said, there are crazies everywhere. But I followed this story and I truly do not remember any report of death threats. I sincerly want to see it.

And if Pinko wants to make the claim, it is certainly within forum rules that he provide proof.
Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay December 4, 2007 11:54 AM


Thanks, Pinko.

Other Liberals Posters - TAKE NOTE! Post a claim, post the proof!
"Cavallaro is best known for his quirky work with food as art: Past efforts include repainting a Manhattan hotel room in melted mozzarella, spraying five tons of pepper jack cheese on a Wyoming home, and festooning a four-poster bed with 312 pounds of processed ham."

So the guy really IS nuts.


Good Ol Boy,

I wasn't trying to suggest the Catholic wack jobs are as crazy as the Islamic wack jobs. (Perhaps Catholic fatwa was a poor phrase choice). You're right, the comparison is not even close. I just want to make sure that everyone here is supporting the right to mock and criticize all religions equally. And to be honest, I don't even know if that's what the chocolate sculptor guy was going for. Was he mocking? I'm not sure. Sculptures made out of food are not my cup of tea. (pun intended). That the gallery owner was intimidated into cancelling the show is just a gross violation of free expression of our ideas, which I will say is million times more important to our country's identity and vitality than its "Christian" history.
Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay
December 4, 2007 11:54 AM


Huh. The guy who called letters of protest a "Catholic fatwa" said that he received death threats? Mountain, molehill. Molehill, mountain.

To top it off, I tried to find a single police report or FBI bulletin on these supposed death threats, none exist.

Good try, though.
Very true StanW.

Very true.
So the guy really IS nuts.

Posted by n_obrain
December 4, 2007 12:06 PM |


Or he's just really REALLY hungry.
Samurai, the exhibit was privately funded.


Oh well.

I wasn't really paying attention to the story anyway (it was a bit of a non-issue for me since the Bible very clearly says that followers of Christ will be subjected to insults and degradations and that we should ignore them and hold our heads high).

Having said that, I think comparing this incident to the Mohammed Cartoons is way off base. As GOB points out, Christians don't riot, destroy property, or kill people when we feel insulted. We bitch and moan, to be sure, but very rarely do we kill people. And even when a Christian DOES kill someone for something as silly as this, that "Christian" is condemned by the entire community.

Muslims cannot say the same.
What are you suggesting, jasmac, that Fox News doesn't fact check its stories?
To top it off, I tried to find a single police report or FBI bulletin on these supposed death threats, none exist.

Good try, though.

Posted by jasamc
December 4, 2007 12:10 PM


What are you suggesting, jasmac, that Fox News doesn't fact check its stories?
Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay
December 4, 2007 12:14 PM


Not at all. Did the artist claim that he received death threats? Yes. Over. And. Over. And. Over. In all KINDS of publications that I've dredged through this morning.

Fox News heard him claim it, they reported it, I decided.
Posted by Tom_pinko_Delay
December 4, 2007 12:07 PM

I had hoped you weren't trying to go that route, TpD, I give you a lot more credit than that.
I agree about the importance of freedom of expression. However, I would point out that they're both covered in the same Amendment and as such were probably, IMhO, equally essential rights in the eyes of our Founding Fathers.
spraying five tons of pepper jack cheese on a Wyoming home


Wouldn't spraying cheese on a Wisconsin home be somewhat more apropos?
Wouldn't spraying cheese on a Wisconsin home be somewhat more apropos?

Posted by CavalierX
December 4, 2007 12:46 PM |


XD Nobody would be able to tell any difference in before or after.
What I never can get is why Liberals of good standing don't do more to distance themselves from those fools (Daily Kos). Some not all Liberals (more vocal) come to their assistance and defend them. Much like Liberals in the past and present defending Stalin, Mao, Castro and other dictators from the left - why?
"Posted by CavalierX
December 4, 2007 12:46 PM "

Darned cheeseheads.

Darned cheeseheads.

Posted by n_obrain
December 4, 2007 2:03 PM |

Better'n bein a Minniesoda ViQueen! :D

Each administration will be brought to justice in good order. I'm still trying to educate the American people about the "Illinois Gang" conspiracy led by Lincoln which resulted in the takeover of America by corporate America.
1)While the media portrayed the wily railroad attorney Lincoln as a bumbling ,dumb, hick, Lincoln orchestrated a war which would permanantly take power away from the grassroots farmer and give control of this nation's future to "Big Railroad."
2)Using the pretense of the bombing of Fort Sumter, Lincoln invaded a semi-foreign land ( Virginia) resulting in a horrible 4 year war and the death and maiming of 1/2 million American boys.
* Footnote: Many believe the explosions at Fort Sumter were actually internal in origin.
3) Instituted a criminal and unconstitutional illegal wire-tapping system of the American telegraph network. Suspended habeus corpus and imprisoned hundred of citizens that he and his cohorts claimed to be traitors.
4) Detained thousands of American citizens and sent them to concentration camps in the North where they were murdered by the lack of adequate health care.
5)Ridiculously claimed that the war's purpose was to bring freedom to a certain population when in reality it was conducted for the benefit of the railroad corporations.

Next I will attempt to expose the traitorous, criminal political activity of the Van Buren administration.
Point me to the cheese house, I have a beef stick, a box of crackers, and a tv. We can watch the game.
Nothing says real man like having a lesbian call you "cuddly."
This is just a perfect exposition of the reactionary liberal media:

via The American Thinker.

http://www.americanthinker.com...crat_aide_charg.html

>>
'Local news': Democrat aide charged with soliciting sex from a 13 year old
Thomas Lifson
From the Seattle Times "local news" page:

James Michael McHaney, 28, was charged Saturday in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., with using a computer to arrange a sexual encounter with an informant posing as a boy, according to court records.
<<
This is just a perfect exposition of the reactionary liberal media:

via The American Thinker.

http://www.americanthinker.com...crat_aide_charg.html

>>
'Local news': Democrat aide charged with soliciting sex from a 13 year old
Thomas Lifson
From the Seattle Times "local news" page:

James Michael McHaney, 28, was charged Saturday in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., with using a computer to arrange a sexual encounter with an informant posing as a boy, according to court records.


Posted by n_obrain
December 4, 2007 2:30 PM |


What exactly is your problem with this story no brain?
Hello angrybird im MAD BLUEBIRD i feel the same way towards what those blasted politicians and illegal alein supporters are doing to this country we must not allow a bunch of forgein crinimals to take control we must oppose this NORTH AMERICAN UNION
to my husband being forced to take a job where he wasn't home much that helped ruin my marriage." -- angrybird

Do ya suppose if he had better skills he could have gotten a job where he would be home more? DO ya suppose he took a job where he wasn't home to get away from the rantings of a lunatic? Do ya suppose her marrage went south because he is a stupid left wing nutjob with BDS?

I vote for D, all of the above.
Posted by idpanicman
December 4, 2007 2:44 PM |

If it were a Republican, it'd be page 1 above the fold in the New York Times.

However, since it's a 'D', it's "local news".

In Seattle.


In this case I'd argue its getting the proper amount of coverage and if it were a Republican congressman it would be front page news and discussed for a week on the TV news.
What exactly is your problem with this story no brain?


...Are you seriously asking what the problem is with a Democrat aide soliciting a minor for sex?
OK... so about the lesbian woman making the "cute/snide" comments about Ahmadinejad... my brain is having trouble organizing everything that I want to say about this without it coming out in a rant...

her justification for her statements is so flawed... it is the old Mussolini bit... "Yes, but at least the trains were on time"... it is amazing to me that someone can take the summation of all the terrible things that Ahmadinejad represents (she even lists SOME things) and then still say... "But he makes fun of Bush and the U.S. foreign policy"... "He's alright by me!!!"...

I think that if "sallykohn" were to be transported and dropped into the middle of an Iranian street she might reconsider how cute she was being... something like this might/would happen-> http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/2458/

(I found that by typing "gay" and "iran" in google) 2 seconds...

I MEAN ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?

I hate American so much that I am willing to jump and endorse anyone that opposes America as well... I will look at and recognize that everything else that the person represents is abhorrent... but so long as they laugh at and ridicule America here and maybe there, I will look past the rest...


it must be the same thing that goes through Kevin Spacey's and Sean Penn's heads...

if liberals were the majority...Satan himself could run for President; bust out a couple Bush jokes, talk about how the U.S. deserves retribution for all the problems in the world and he/she would be President in no time...


damn it... it was a rant after all...
Posted by n_obrain
December 4, 2007 3:30 PM |

seattle-brained, like suck-fran-sicko condone the solicitaion of sex with minors. can you say nambla, aclu, democrat party?
Posted by JGee
December 4, 2007 3:39 PM |

Do ya suppose alliwantisjihad would be willing to buy suck-fran-sicko? just think of the great rope sales the U.S. could make in eeeeran.
The article said he was an "ex" aide, that's an outright lie. He was not an "ex" aide until he got caught. Do you think if it were a Republican the word "ex" would have been used?
Follow the arrows of logic on John's post.

Posted by Left_Turn December 4, 2007 4:35 PM


Instead of making up a bunch of crap as you did, please re-read the first paragraph of John's post, LT.

America's most influential blog is the Daily Kos. Democratic members of Congress post on the blog, Democratic presidential contenders cater to them, and Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas is considered to be a mainstream figure amongst Democrats.
If it were a Republican, it'd be page 1 above the fold in the New York Times.

However, since it's a 'D', it's "local news".

In Seattle.




Posted by n_obrain
December 4, 2007 3:42 PM |


right I gotcha, now its not that they (MSM) isnt reporting it, its that they are not putting it on the front page. By the way it is local news in Seattle since the Congresswoman who he was an aide to happens to be from you guessed it the Seattle area.
Posted by Left_Turn
December 4, 2007 4:35 PM

Wow, L_T, you sure are beating the stuffing (pun intended) out of that poor strawman!
Posted by idpanicman December 4, 2007 4:58 PM


Ready to debate yet, crthns?
if liberals were the majority...Satan himself could run for President; bust out a couple Bush jokes, talk about how the U.S. deserves retribution for all the problems in the world and he/she would be President in no time...


damn it... it was a rant after all...

Posted by JGee
December 4, 2007 3:39 PM |


It was done JGee.
http://www.imao.us/archives/001041.html#001041

(favorite line:
"Bush! Bush!" White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan yelled as he ran into the Oval Office. "There's a new Democrat who's entered the race for the presidency!"

"Who is it now?" Bush asked with annoyance.

"An evil demon that vows to destroy the world and eat your soul!"

Bush jumped out of his chair in surprise. "But Hillary promised she wouldn't run for the presidency!"

"He speaks of O'Yama, Eater of Souls," Zatoichi, Bush's blind samurai Secret Service agent, uttered, "An ancient evil.")
I think it's safe to say both parties have people who do wrong in them. There's only one major party in the USA that is trying to advance the cause of wrongdoing and sexual perversion though.
My favorite part was the person who "fears slipping into nazi germany" and then is going out to vote for a democrat. I got a good laugh out of that.

Also pretty disturbing the lesbian who is a fan of a man (who slaughters lesbians) because he also hates george bush. Do you think if I broke into her house, did terrible things to her, stole all of stuff, trashed her house, then spray painted IMPEACH BUSH on her living room wall, shed ask me for a second date?
It certainly bears repeating after reading these disgusting KOS "messages," Liberalism is a mental disorder. It is an absolute insult to the folks who suffered at the hands of the Nazis to so flippantly call President Bush a Nazi just because they do not like him. I do not particularly care for President Bush since he refuses to SHUT down the border, but it is absolutely ridiculous to call him a Nazi. If he was such a Nazi he would have rounded all the KOS nuts up. Considering their demented comments, most of them probably should be rounded up as I imagine they are a bunch of dope smoking riff raff, probably some of them deal drugs, and maybe even child molesters in that bunch. Really, would you want someone who says such garbage to watch your children?!? NO WAY!!! These KOS people are disgusting wierdos.
I cant believe Daily Kos. I visited it for first time I am blown away. We are living in a police state? because Andrew Meyer got tazed when, at least I thought, EVERYONE in USA knew they went easy on him? WOW

And Patreaus is a "ass kissing chickenshit who lied before congress about his failed surge?" I cant believe anyone would read this crap. Has there been evidence that he is a liar or surge failed?

OK I apologize. everyone here is probably fully aware how loony that site is, I just had to say something I was so amazed. I think National Inquirer is better place to get news than that site. Ok Ill stop now.
Don't stop jdt, they are loony.
Posted by Righty99
December 4, 2007 7:40 PM |

Unless you are a Republican. If your a demoncrite, they give you a clintoon medal for covert sex in whorehouses and bathrooms (unless shrillary comes home) Republicans throw you under the bus demand your resignation and shun you for the deviant piece of s*it you are.
"In other words, this hy-larious list is based on either a lie or an idiotic mistake. Since you're chock full of that integrity stuff I anxiously await your correction.

Posted by Thers
December 4, 2007 9:42 PM |"


DING DING DING DING

We have our "Charges of cherrypicking" winner of the day.

And, wow, is she an idiot.



"Oh, and you rather spectacularly whizzed the point of the A Whitney Brown one, you cretins.

Posted by Thers
December 4, 2007 9:46 PM |"

Naw, I'd rather whiz on him for insulting America's armed forces.


It's not cherrypicking, you idiot. You don't know how Scoop works, or how DK works. You just don't. And the distinction I cited is nothing arcane.

Whether the fellow who write this post knows these things or not, I don't know, but he wrote something that is either stupid or mendacious. It's not even debatable.
n'obrain, you didn't actually click the link to the post, did you?
Got lost Thers. Anyone who has ever went to one of those site like KOS can easily find stuff on those sites similar or even worse than these examples found by John Hawkins. As far as integrity, who are you to tell us about integrity, especially considering that we know and often see examples of hard left folks with signs and running their mouths saying stuff that is comparable to what John Hawkins has posted here. I trust John Hawkins integrity way more than a troll like you who pops up and starts calling us cretins. I don't have time to stick around tonight but I am certain some of the regulars will show up soon to mop the floor with you.

I liked number 5...

"If we do not wake up now and flood Congress to impeach the President and Vice President, one year from now, Daily Kos may be banned and Markos himself may be disappeared, in a federal prison somewhere."


Yeah yeah, impeach Chimpy McHitler. We know, we know.

Kos in prison? What a tantalizing idea. Brought up on charges of aiding and abetting our enemies, via use of libel of political figures on the World Wide Web.

Maybe it's the FBI checked this fellow out and made sure he hasn't got anything to hide.


Posted by Thers
December 4, 2007 10:50 PM |

Blah, blah, blah.

What, pray tell, is your point? That this sort of vile hatred really isn't representative of the mainstream left? Is that what this diatribe of yours boils down to?

Please. We know better.
The funny thing is if Right Wing News had a diary system with white supremacists, abortion bombers, and people who wanted to create death camps to put liberals in writing on it, suddenly this artificial distinction would disappear. And so it should: your website carrying this kind of stuff and not deleting it or clearing it up is tacit agreement and support of the ideas.
The point, cylarz, is a simple one. I shall type slowly so you don't get lost.

Hawkins said that these quotes come from Kos "writers." They don't. The main page at Kos has 4-5 writers, including Kos.

Daily Kos, the site, also has a "diary" feature. Anyone can get a DK diary. These diaries are publicly accessible: anyone can get one.

Hawkins pulled these quotes from the diaries. Not from the writers on the main page.

Is that too difficult for you? Too many syllables, maybe?
Christopher Taylor, you'd have a point if any of the quotes referenced above actually advocated hate speech. They don't. Some of them are excessively paranoid (the AW Brown one is misinterpreted). But they don't, and so you don't. And yes, DK bans diaries that advocate hate speech. Do you see that above? Where, pray?
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/ho.../01125104.guest.html

Stack of Stuff Quick Hits Page
December 3, 2007
Story #2: North Vietnamese General: America Lost at Home

RUSH: How many of you remember the name General Giap from the North Vietnamese army? ... He's published his memoirs and here's a pull quote:

[General Giap]"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. ... But we were elated to notice that your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefield."


Do they really want America to disintegrate? Because if that does happen, the changed environment in America probably wouldn't be so tolerant to the deranged who sit in their basements tracking plots while enjoying the blanket of freedom and security America provides.

It is all hyperbole. They don't actually want that trust fund to disappear into an electronic ether of numbers which would mean no food, no housing, and no electricity to run their computers. They just want to be in CHARGE!

Posted by ColoradoRight
December 4, 2007 11:23 AM |

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Well, the Agenda they follow is CLEARLY LABELED:

"Agenda For the Destruction of America", from the inside.

So how can they not be intending their CONSISTENT behavior?

Anyone else watches their own consequences, their own wake, and like a child has to notice if their wild sashay through the room knocks a glass of liquid off a coffee table, spilling the contents and smashing the glass to pieces, so should an adult notice if all the consequences of ALL their "WELL-MEANING" political policies is destruction only, and never positive, healthy thriving constructive work.

Which of them would tolerate the same level of destruction by their friends to their own home? CONSISTENTLY???

We are silly for listening to their platitudes when they made their techniques plain in the '60's - "practice saying something various ways, until you are comfortable saying what they want to hear without violating your conscience."

It was their favorite game to learn in college in the late 50's and early 60's. They even frequently made a game of it as they practiced to prove the lie detector was unreliable because they could do it so easily, and do it good enough to fool the machine.

50 years later, after all the con games played on us by shysters of every sort, advertizers and con artists coming through your neighborhood with "new roofs" and a "found check" if you would just put it in your checking account, and hold this cash envelope...pyramid schemes, ponzi schemes - and we still think the most consistent people on the planet are only "accidently" causing all this damage???

That takes our naivete to incredible heights.

When is the last time you ever saw the Liberals ACCIDENTLY do something that backfired and was BENEFICIAL to America???


“The man who sets dogs on concentration camp victims or fires his revolver into the back of their necks is evidently a brute; the intellectual who devises justifications for the brutality is harder to deal with, and far more sinister in the long run.”

- David Pryce-Jones

Posted by n_obrain
December 4, 2007 8:53 AM |

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

There it is in a nutshell!

And yet American Conservatives continue to treat them as if they are genuinely attempting to be benvolent creatures!

The truth is only the rottenness of a creature eaten up with such self-consuming jealousy and greed and envy can be comfortable with the idea of becoming an oppressor to their own neighbors, and thus be b rought to the fallen state of being willing to consider Socialism, Marxism, and Stalinism as viable optins for the foundation of their political policies.

It doesn't really get any more depraved. Their fruit bears them witness.

They have gotten to the point that they openly march and argue for the rights of housethieves over the homeowner - as they are currently doing, down in Houston.
"Other Liberals Posters - TAKE NOTE! Post a claim, post the proof!

Posted by StanW "

Now if we can just get the right wingers to post the same type of proofs.
It's rather a pity Rose doesn't have her own diary. She should get one at Red State. They're free!
"Unless you are a Republican. If your a demoncrite, they give you a clintoon medal for covert sex in whorehouses and bathrooms (unless shrillary comes home) Republicans throw you under the bus demand your resignation and shun you for the deviant piece of s*it you are.

Posted by wyo_os_con"

Interestingly, very few republicans condemned craig for being gay. Rather, they were offended he broke the law.

And I give them credit for this. It's taken a while but most republicans have come around to the idea that there's no reason anymore to persecute a person for sexual orientation. But I also give credit to the Democratic party and the gay activists for the good work they've done in pushing this position.

All in all it's good for america.
Posted by Thers
December 4, 2007 11:07 PM |

POS, it doesn't matter if the feature is diarists, they are still endorsed and condoned by kos. It is typical of leftists sites such as kos du huffpo etc. it also typical of leftist radio, leftist rants, and the demoncritic party speech. Just today ol reid went off on how the U.S. should surrender to iran because they are just so nice. Wake up and smell the coffee little girl, your leftists heros are suffering from a mental and biological disorder. they need treatment, pity and sympathy, not justification for their actions. If the cdc would worry more about liberalism and less about bird flu, our health care system would not be in as bad a shape as it is now.
Posted by TheAmerican
December 5, 2007 12:39 AM |

Posted by TheAmerican
December 5, 2007 12:39 AM |


But a lot of us have condemmed you for being queer. Not to mention an anti-American pos with no redeemable quality.

And yes we condemmed craig for breaking the law, which is more than demoncrites do when one of thiers does. johnson, murtha, jefferson, harmon, mullohan, etc. http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind...?title=Congresspedia

For you leftists loony tunes -- the link is what we refer to as a reference/proof


And these idiots want us to vote for their party to run this country?
Posted by Thers
December 5, 2007 1:11 AM |

Its interesting how you (and most looney lefties) forget which opinion you spouted earlier. You posted
---
Hawkins said that these quotes come from Kos "writers." They don't. The main page at Kos has 4-5 writers, including Kos.

Daily Kos, the site, also has a "diary" feature. Anyone can get a DK diary. These diaries are publicly accessible: anyone can get one.

Hawkins pulled these quotes from the diaries. Not from the writers on the main page.
----
So if you are going to be an idiot, get it right. Like I said it doesn't matter if the quotes came from the main or not, they are still endorsed by dkos, it is part of the culture there, these idiotic posts are there everyday, never scrutinized, never disavowed. I know Red State, Malkin, and other conservative blogs remove posts that are riddled with profanity, in bad taste, or threatening. kos, du, huffpo, etc do not. therefore they condone the behavior.
Thanks for playing a**hole. now run along, the adults are talking.
wyo_os_con

OK, you're very slow. Let's make this even easier for you.

Malkin's site has "comments." RedState has "diaries."

Have I lost you yet? Because there's more.
Posted by Thers
December 5, 2007 1:38 AM |

Actually, you haven't responded to me at all. What I asked is...does the distinction between "diaries" and not-diaries.....supposed to somehow obscure the larger point that the mainstream left is full to the brim of hate-speech?
Actually, don't bother. It sounds like you're nothing but the latest in a long string of stuck-up, arrogant bigots. Feel free to get lost.
"Have I lost you yet? Because there's more.

Posted by Thers
December 5, 2007 1:38 AM |"

Kos' site.

Kos' writers.

Have I lost you yet?

"But a lot of us have condemmed you for being queer. Not to mention an anti-American pos with no redeemable quality."

Yes, but the key here is that those of you who would condemn me or others for being "queer" seems to be reduced in number daily, just as the number of people who would condemn a person for being black by pinning a the world N*gger on them is severely reduced in number.

I understand their will be hold outs. But that's ok. It's likely you'll demonstrate your ignorance only online behind a firewall of anonymity.
Wrong, technically, legally, and morally.
Posted by Thers
December 5, 2007 1:11 AM |

So Mr. Hawkins made a mistake. Maybe he should write a correction, like newspapers do the next day.
On the other hand, you totally skipped analyzing the philosophical basis that allows these hilarious missives to be formulated by DK posters.


Anyone can get a diary at DK, just like anyone can comment at a blog, and the DK diaries are not moderated any more heavily than most blogs' comments sections.
Posted by Thers
December 4, 2007 9:42 PM |

OK, sure. But ever notice how they all blame conservatives or Mr. Bush for all the evil in the world. I did notice you had nothing to say about that.
So, you'll nitpick about mistakes (it's a blog, for gawd's sake), but fail to address the larger issue of an idealogy that underpins such screeds.

Have a nice day.


Posted by n_obrain
December 5, 2007 8:36 AM


Don't bother with this new-ish troll. Why? From his own blog:

"Discuss. Of course, if you disagree with this you're a fucking dumbass. Dumbass. Fucker."

So, yeah, good luck trying to debate with someone of that mental caliber.
Now if we can just get the right wingers to post the same type of proofs.

Posted by TheAmerican December 5, 2007 12:31 AM


Happens all the time, TA.

Of course, since you don't like the evidence we post that destryos your arguments, or you can claim the site is biased; you simply ignore them and claim we never posted proof.

Imagine my surprise.
Christopher Taylor, you'd have a point if any of the quotes referenced above actually advocated hate speech.

Let me translate that from leftist cant into modern English:

"Christopher Taylor you'd have a point if any of the quotes referenced above actually said things that leftists disagree with and condemn."
Thers I did not address your point, because your point is pointless. Anyway, you conveniently passed over mine. I've been reading RWN for over three years and have never seen anything on it that is as disgusting and vile as what is allowed to stay on most of those big time leftie sites. That is why it does not matter to me whether they are diarywriters or commenters or telegrammers or typewriters for all I care. Also, you truly convict yourself of being a troll when you call John Hawkins an idiot or liar. I don't always agree with J.H., but he and RWN have endured this long because of his integrity. To the best of my recollection he always removes foul or obscene posts pretty quick. Shoot, J.H. and RWN helped me come out of my lefty phase and I am glad of it.
So Mr. Hawkins made a mistake. Maybe he should write a correction, like newspapers do the next day.

No, he definitely should do this.
No, he definitely should do this.
Posted by Thers
December 5, 2007 3:54 PM |

OK...agreed. And I suspect Mr. Hawkins in not above acknowledging errors. But previously, you posted this...

I called JH an idiot or a lar for a thing he said that is not true. Anyone with a brain can tell it's not true. These quotes don't come from DK writers.
I'm glad to know that JH takes full responsibility for everything you nitwits say at his site, though.
I'm also glad you're not on "the left" anymore. Bad rubbish, and all that.


Which makes me think you were drunk or high when you posted. Absolutely no rhyme nor reason to this.

So...get sober. And then talk about how irrational all those people who disagree with you are.

Have a nice day.



The attempt to draw a distinction between "Daily Kos writers" and "writers on Daily Kos" helps me understand President Clinton's testimony a bit better.
it doesn't matter if the feature is diarists, they are still endorsed and condoned by kos.

Wrong, technically, legally, and morally.


Really? This is from dKospedia, the official wiki of the Daily Kos:

Diary guidelines

...

14. Diaries which engage in wild speculation without any proof are strongly discouraged. Repeatedly posting diaries consisting largely or entirely of wild speculation is an abuse of site policy. Bear in mind that that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

15. Diaries which contain hateful or defamatory writing are prohibited.

16. Diaries which are deliberately designed to inflame are prohibited.


ALL of the diaries above are in flagrant violation of these three policies. Since Kos has not deleted any of them, he clearly approves of them and does not believe them to be inflammatory. Probably because he agrees (if he didn't agree, why hasn't he deleted them?).
I called JH an idiot or a lar for a thing he said that is not true. Anyone with a brain can tell it's not true. These quotes don't come from DK writers.

I'm glad to know that JH takes full responsibility for everything you nitwits say at his site, though.

I'm also glad you're not on "the left" anymore. Bad rubbish, and all that.

-- posted by "thers"

Yeah, right. This from a leftist who has been spewing personal insults like idiot and cretin from his/her first post.

Yes, I have seen posts as hateful as the DailyKos posts above, by professed coservatives on this site. The vast majority are by drive-by posters.
However, I have never seen them stand, without being challenged...and sometimes later deleted.

In the event a regular contributor makes a hateful remark, they are chastized and apologize. Every time.

Vastly different. Then again, this site is also vastly different from DKos because they actually allow dissenters here...if they are civil...unlike this jerk-off, "thers."

Since Kos has not deleted any of them, he clearly approves of them and does not believe them to be inflammatory. Probably because he agrees

Right, that's what I was touching on above. Thers doesn't see the parallel I was drawing and rejects it not because a parallel can't exist but because he has no problem with what the Kos diarists say and considers anything anyone on the right does bad to be "hate speech" and thus in an innately sinful, unforgivable category. There cannot be hate speech on the left because once it becomes hate speech it no longer is leftist writing. That's the set of rules he's working with.

That and the assumption that someone writing on the Daily Kos website somehow isn't a writer for Daily Kos until they are officially on the team. Writing nonsense and horrible stuff like John quoted is unacceptable, you can't shrug and say 'well I didn't write it' as if that's some excuse or lets you off the hook.
The attempt to draw a distinction between "Daily Kos writers" and "writers on Daily Kos" helps me understand President Clinton's testimony a bit better.

Since the distinction is actually between "diarists" and "writers," that's another terrific point from you. Kudos.
Yeah, like the distinction between "is" and "is."
ALL of the diaries above are in flagrant violation of these three policies.

How so?
Posted by Thers
December 5, 2007 9:35 PM |

Oh...
welcome back...why are you here again?
ALL of the diaries above are in flagrant violation of these three policies.

How so?

Posted by Thers
December 5, 2007 9:35 PM


Because they are hate speach and inflamitory. Is it that hard to grasp? But I assume since they are anti-right wing statements, then they are just fine, right?
*rolls eyes*

Oh...
welcome back...why are you here again?

Posted by rmiller
December 5, 2007 9:39 PM


He's here to troll and disrupt, rmiller.
That much was obvious the moment he started in with the personal insults right out of the gate. I'll bet he would not tolerate such churlish behavior on his own site. I'd test that little theory, but I have self respect.

"Trench Raider"






Let me guess... you somehow seem to think that the posts quoted on here by DK diarists do not reflect the opinions of the DK blog.
Good luck with that.
I'll bet he would not tolerate such churlish behavior on his own site. I'd test that little theory, but I have self respect.
"Trench Raider"
Posted by trenchraider
December 5, 2007 9:48 PM |


I looked at his site...and the opinions all seem to skew one way. So you would win that bet. Just like DK.

One thing I'll say for Mr. Hawkins' site...he (and the moderaters) do not censor, no matter how much pressure.
Do you have anything productive to add, or are you just going to troll, Thers?

TR
Conservatism is a mental disorder.
Posted by Thers
December 5, 2007 10:34 PM |


That's pretty cute, girlie.
How so?


Are you seriously asking me this question?
Jesus I'm starting to think I have a mental disease I actually read all 10 entries. Christ I feel sorry for those people, don't they know there are drugs available to aleviate this deviant thinking namely Prozac. The #1 comment is the one that gets me the most now apparently I'm an idiot/retarded, well in my eyes the Army bought my house, provided me with an education(I.E. a bach in math, an AA in comp sci and enough creds to qualify for a phys ed bach). So I had to do a little dirty work, we all must pay the piper at some time, I was just pre-qualified. With the Army's help I'm presently working towards a Bus Mngt degree, cause after 23 years I'm still in and moving forward as always. So if this is being an idiot/retarded hell I've got it GOOD, and I'll stay in till I'm told otherwise
Let me guess... you somehow seem to think that the posts quoted on here by DK diarists do not reflect the opinions of the DK blog.

Honestly I doubt he thinks that, but he wants other people to think that because of how embarrassing and awful they are. The sad part is I wouldn't be surprised a bit to find out if he nodded as he read each one. It's a pretty common thing in the radical left, they know they ought not agree with some things, they know that publicly that will look terrible and repulse people so they make the right noises to seem distant while never actually repudiating or disagreeing with what is said.
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