Let this thread over at the Daily Kos be a warning to you: life is bigger than politics. Yes, politics and ideology are important, but you shouldn't take things to such an extreme that you let it make you miserable or wreck your relationships with your friends or family.
Granted, sometimes you will run into people who are really loud and obnoxious about their political views, so much so that it's difficult to deal with them, but hopefully people like that will be unusual in your life.
If you're getting so into politics that it's destroying your relationships, it might be time to step back and put things in perspective lest you end up like the Kossacks who actually blame George Bush for ruining their friendships and marriages...
angrybird: Have the Bush years taken a toll on your relationships?I wrote a diary a short time ago about how the Bush administration helped ruin my marriage. It wasn't because my husband was a Bush supporter or anything...it was because of all the stresses from job loses, living without health insurance and getting sick, to my husband being forced to take a job where he wasn't home much that helped ruin my marriage.
However...I started thinking about other relationships that have indeed been killed because those people where Bush supporters.
...Please share your stories about how the bush administration has taken it's toll on your relationships; they can be stories from economy related to the personal. I promise you will feel better if you share :-)"
begone: Hmmm, my relationship with myself, mostly.Before my head began exploding a few years ago in response
to Busharama, I'd exercise a lot... I mean, almost daily, joyous-type
exericising. Now I come home with a slight frown on my face and
come here to hear the news & be a mojo-mama even if too
tired to comment, and hang for hours here and on other blogs,
as if the light will shine again and I'll be present to hear the
BREAKING news about that.Bush, I blame you for my new-ish extra 20 pounds....
delphine: I haven't had a relationship since he took office.But I can say that I've been trashed by potential online dating partners for stating I couldn't date anyone who thinks bush is a good presznit....
cowgirl: I have two co-irkers who are die hard Bushies. I've known them for years. Although we weren't all that close, I've spent time with them outside of work, spent many breaks and lunches together, and generally liked them a whole lot.Eventually, their support for Bush got to the point where talking with them simply infuriated me. I'm still polite and cordial with them, but we don't hang out the way we used to. It's just hard to fathom their belief system. How can they not be angry at the war alone? That many deaths makes me sick to many stomach, and they support it? W.T.F.
I'm not a violent person, but the last few times I discussed politics with them, I had the strongest urge to thump them upside their pointy little heads...HARD.
Good riddance to bad rubbish, I guess.
Boadicaea: Somehow my family AND relationships are almost all at odds with me. If they're not pro-Bush, they're disparaging about my uphill efforts to do something about him ("You really think a march/what you write/a sign/etc. will make a difference?"). One of my oldest friends called me a "kook." And they all get frothy over who deserves their tax money.The hardest is my dad, but he's steering clear of politics lately and I just spent six weeks with him with only a few mishaps. He's a retired USAF pilot and looks at everything as bad guys/good guys, liberal media, etc. We're both old enough now for thoughful avoidance; if I feel like the top of my head is about to blow off, I go somewhere far away. He knows why, but accepts it. We talk a lot about family and faith, so conversation isn't superficial.
There was an incident--he called me in to view a video he'd received in his email. Before I knew what it was, I was watching a smart bomb blow up a group of Iraqis--"bad guys"--while my dad raved about our advances in weaponry. He absolutely had no awareness of my reaction to the video and to his enjoyment of it.
I was down the hall, thinking I would puke, when he hollered "Do you want to see it again?" I knew if I said anything but no we'd have a horrible and fruitless spat, so I just disappeared for a few hours....
meldroc: Bush has also damaged my mental health.After I actually took the trouble to inform myself about politics a couple years ago, and learned the true extent of the damage Bush has done to this country, I have a constant boiling rage inside me. Absolutely constant. Never ceases, though sometimes I can get it down to a simmer so I can go out in public and hang out with friends without doing something stupid. On top of the anger is a generous dose of fear and anxiety, coming directly from the Bush administration's march to fascism.
Frequently, I'm so intensely angry that I hit things. I just broke my bookshelf today because I hit it. My knuckles have decent callouses on them from hitting things, and various pieces of my property show signs of my rage. Thankfully, I've never turned violent against people since I was in high school, though I was sorely tempted to deviate the septum of a wingnut who called me a traitor and f*ggot to my face at the anti-war march last Saturday.
Of course, it's unhealthy to harbor this much anger, especially if I'm stuffing it down all the time so people around me don't see me acting borderline psychotic. These emotions leak out, turn into other emotions, like depression, which I've fought with since college. I've also developed a venomous hatred of Bush and his cronies and the 23-percenters that support him. Hatred's never a good emotion to hold, but there it is. I literally hate those motherf*ckers who are destroying our country.
By all rights, I should be getting help, but I'm not going to. I was soured on the psychiatry business by my experience with anti-depressants - I ended up nearly emotionless, apathetic, and lost my motivation and creative drive, and as a result, I was unemployed for three years and had to move back in with my parents. I was your classic anti-depressant zombie. They didn't like the changes to my personality either, and stopped paying for the meds. After I tapered off the anti-depressants, I got my drive back, I was able to find work as a software engineer again, move into my own apartment, and now I'm supporting myself again. On top of that, if I told a counselor about my feelings, or that I'm so afraid of my government that I literally spent several hundred dollars on a shotgun, a deadly weapon, to defend myself against my government, I'm afraid I could get thrown into the psych ward. And I value my freedom enough that I will not allow that to happen under any circumstances. So, no shrinks.
I haven't talked to my best friend and ex-roommate in weeks because of a few personal issues between us, including politics - he's Republican, and though he's no fan of Bush, he constantly mocks and belittles my politics when I talk to him. So I don't."
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Actually, I'm glad to hear it. Liberals want our whole nation to suffer under their socialism. Its only fair they impose that pain on themselves.
Posted by RAA
2007-10-29 08:31:00
I can not believe this. Can liberals take responsibility for anything they do???!!!
Posted by ninerdog
2007-10-29 09:13:38
Posted by Dick_Nixon
2007-10-29 09:17:21
Posted by Levans
2007-10-29 09:21:44
Posted by Jaded
2007-10-29 09:53:45
LOL. I was thinking the same thing as I read their remarks. The last one, meldroc, is the very definition of a BDS-sufferer.
Posted by Good_Ol_Boy
2007-10-29 09:54:13
It never occurs to these freaks that THEY may be the problem? "...but the last few times I discussed politics with them, I had the strongest urge to thump them upside their pointy little heads...HARD." And some of our more vocal trolls call Conservatives "angry, violent, and hate-filled"???
As James Earl Jones said in Field of Dreams says, "You've got a whole TEAM of psychiatrists working on you, don't you?"
Posted by StanW
2007-10-29 10:01:23
Honestly, though, if there's one quote that sums all of these people up, or perhaps ALL BDS sufferers up...
Sorry, buddy. It was already damaged.
Posted by gwgmer
2007-10-29 10:21:55
Posted by AlexinCT
2007-10-29 11:05:31
October 29, 2007 11:05 AM |
They'd find someone else to blame if a conservative wasn't a handy target, I'm sure. In Liberaland™, it's always someone else's fault that their lives aren't idyllic paradises full of fluffy clouds and unicorn giggles. Admitting personal responsibility is anathema to them, because it means they're mistaken about something, and that they may need to change some things in their lives. It's far easier' to pin the tail on the conservative, you see.
Posted by Tzimisce
2007-10-29 11:43:08
Remember, these are the sanctimonious idiots who blamed "overbuilding" for the Malibu fires, forgetting that they were the "overbuilders" in the
first place.
Posted by ebrown2
2007-10-29 12:34:39
This reads exactly like the satire we write about them, except they really believe it.
Posted by Genghis_Shan
2007-10-29 14:43:15
Well those fires are a direct consequence of the green enviro-nuts getting their way. Overbuilding was not close to being the problem. See, the left forgets, or too often wants to ignore, that there are consequences to actions. Stop all logging and forest clearing activity for whatever idiotic Gaia induced high reason, and you end up in a giant tinder box. Eventually it will all go up in smoke. I am not expecting the MSM to point any of this out, and I am certain nobody will take the necessary actions to prevent this in the future, so we will see more of this again. Their ability to ignore reality and blame others for the problems they cause is astounding. Sad really.
Posted by AlexinCT
2007-10-29 15:14:43
Everything in her life - 2 failed marriages, a truant son, can't quit smoking, 60lbs overweight -is the fault of ChimpyBushMcHitler (or the american taliban). She started on this last summer. I shut her up with "so, if a liberal democrat wins next year all of your problems will go away. If GWB is the problem then replacing him should cause you to quit smoking, C****or will go to school and you will loose 60lbs." She hasn't talked to me since.
Though if replacing GWB would cause a 60lb weight loss then I'm in.
/sarcasm
Posted by jimb123
2007-10-29 15:22:02
Posted by Capitalist_Infidel
2007-10-29 15:24:56
Posted by rightonq
2007-10-29 15:46:16
Posted by osuaggie
2007-10-29 16:14:41
A female on a board I used to participate in (if anyone is interested it was Wil Wheaton's board, I am a Star Trek fanatic) had a husband that was generally neutral on the whole issue of both Bush and the War (by her description - he just didn't care and was happy either way). He was terribly nonsupporting of her in that he didn't agree with everything she said (almost a direct quote, apparently "support" in a marriage means she is always correct and to be followed). She had discussed a divorce with the people on the board before over that but had decided to at least give him a while.
Then one night, with her being psychic and all, she had a dream where he abused her - she called the police and had him charged with domestic violence. Needless to say the whole system was *terribly* unsupportive when they found out she was pressing charges because of a dream, in fact they just weren't very nice at all and threatened to take her to jail if she did that again. Apparently they don't understand what dreams mean to psychics and how much that traumatized her, if they did he would be in jail for a LONG time. Several months later she was still terrified and couldn't sleep over the abuse he had done to her (in that dream).
Needless to say that one resulted in a divorce, IIRC she didn't get very much in the divorce settlement either - just another case of the Man putting the good leftists down.
For the most part the board was *very* supportive of her and couldn't figure out why the bastard wasn't in jail, her feelings were important too! I also wish I had copied some of the poems she wrote (she was also a self proclaimed Muse) as they were quite funny also.
Posted by strcpy
2007-10-29 16:43:24
October 29, 2007 4:43 PM
That story, as well as these quotes, beg the question: WTF is wrong with people?! Is bipolar disorder really so prevalent in America?
Posted by Good_Ol_Boy
2007-10-29 16:57:39
But I can say that I've been trashed by potential online dating partners for stating I couldn't date anyone who thinks bush is a good presznit....
So, let's review:
Looking for dates online.
Won't date anyone who doesn't think the way she does politically.
Hasn't had a relationship since Bush took office.
Ergo - It's Bush's fault she's a hyper-partisan, um, female dog who can't get a date.
You'd think one of her Cheeto-stained political kin would take her up on it. Or maybe she's just a fat, ugly person with no personality and is miserable all the time.
But I'm sure that's Bush's fault, too.
Posted by jimg
2007-10-29 17:58:18
Posted by sproe98
2007-10-29 18:36:22
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
2007-10-29 18:52:23
Posted by Corperate_Cabana
2007-10-29 19:25:50
Posted by 1redthread
2007-10-29 20:14:02
How in the world can I be expected to be responsible for myself? Isn't that what the GOVERNMENT'S for?
/lib off
Posted by gwgmer
2007-10-29 20:43:26
Posted by John_from_texas
2007-10-29 21:10:21
Marriages and relationships...bush Did It.
How truly pathetic is that?
Posted by snoopoer
2007-10-29 23:30:34
Posted by Cartman
2007-10-29 23:33:11
Uh-huh.
Hypocrites.
The first time I read reactions like this was a thread that I happened upon long ago at democratic underground. I was truly shocked and appalled. Now it doesn't surprise me at all.
Posted by zgystardst
2007-10-29 23:36:44
I have the opposite story of these Kos Kidz. I got married in '94, and we struggled like many young couples do. By the time 2000 rolled around, we were on our feet, and are currently doing ok. Never once did I blame Clinton for my early troubles, nor do I credit Bush for my current situation.
I have a moonbat brother who insists that the 90's were all peace, love and roses, and that our current "hellish" situation will be reversed by Hillary. I always tell him my story, and point out that he's not doing so bad either. I'm chipping away, slowly but surely....
Posted by Dr_Remulak
2007-10-30 00:10:11
October 30, 2007 12:10 AM |
My story is a bit like yours. Back in the 90's, I absolutely detested Clinton, but that was because I thought he was dragging our country through the mud (in many ways), contributing to the moral decay of society, and mortgaging our grandkids' inheritance, not because I held him personally responsible for anything that hadn't gone right in my life. (Though maybe if he hadn't pursued so many boneheaded economic policies, I'd have had better luck finding a job back at the end of 2000 when I graduated from college.)
My girlfriend was extremely liberal when I met her - antiwar rallies, women's studies classes in college, the works. I told her one day that as long as we agreed on who God was, the politics didn't matter.
Today, she is downright moderate and has already nixed the possibility of voting for Shillary ("I don't think this country is ready for a female president."). She credits her rightward shift to the fact that I was able to articulate conservative positions to her instead of simply yelling slogans the way her leftist friends had been doing.
Admittedly, spending 2 years as a civilian working on an Air Force base didn't hurt her, either. She got a chance to see that the military is made of human beings, not cold-blooded killing machines.
Posted by cylarz
2007-10-30 00:58:32
It's slamming the door on that crap and taking responsibility for your own life, that goes against the grain.
Posted by cylarz
2007-10-30 01:38:26
Oh, how very sensitive of him/her/it!
Actually I want to puke now. ;-)
"Trench Raider"
Posted by trenchraider
2007-10-30 07:07:45
Posted by SFCMAC
2007-10-30 08:22:52
(1) Republicans in general for stopping the donkey's perfect plans
(2) Talk Radio
(3) Jews
It's sad but I've seen the three blamed often enough to figure they'll continue to take heat from deranged lefties.
Posted by rjschwarz
2007-10-30 15:12:38
Actually, he seemed the best of the lot.
A strong Second Amendment guy like that needs to be nurtured.
Posted by MyRealNameWasTaken
2007-10-30 15:21:43
Actually, he seemed the best of the lot.
A strong Second Amendment guy like that needs to be nurtured.
Posted by MyRealNameWasTaken
2007-10-30 15:22:47
Posted by MyRealNameWasTaken
2007-10-30 15:26:00
Why do these fools lose relationships? I can't figure it out. Why, hatefilled foaming depressives who see everything as falling apart, spiraling out of control, beyond hope and in utter dispair, whose lives are totally ruined and irreparably damaged - man, those are the folks I want to hang out all day with! Yeeeeehaw!
Posted by Rickvid_in_Seattle
2007-10-30 18:26:58
Funny, I never once blamed Clinton for any of that although I didn't like him. We simply had to keep working hard and pay our dues and keep clawing for something better.
In the end, husband managed a pharmaceutical job where he's climbing the ladder in quality control, and we now have our own home. I work with the learning disabled (something amazingly satisfying) and am going to return for a Masters in Speech Pathology next fall.
It's a long way from where we were, and we got there in spite of who ran the country no matter how you look at it, and we will continue to work hard for what we get.
Posted by aharris
2007-10-30 23:53:21