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October 29, 2007
John Hawkins The Daily Kos Thread Of The Day: Bush Ruined My Marriage!

Let this thread over at the Daily Kos be a warning to you: life is bigger than politics. Yes, politics and ideology are important, but you shouldn't take things to such an extreme that you let it make you miserable or wreck your relationships with your friends or family.

Granted, sometimes you will run into people who are really loud and obnoxious about their political views, so much so that it's difficult to deal with them, but hopefully people like that will be unusual in your life.

If you're getting so into politics that it's destroying your relationships, it might be time to step back and put things in perspective lest you end up like the Kossacks who actually blame George Bush for ruining their friendships and marriages...

angrybird: Have the Bush years taken a toll on your relationships?

I wrote a diary a short time ago about how the Bush administration helped ruin my marriage. It wasn't because my husband was a Bush supporter or anything...it was because of all the stresses from job loses, living without health insurance and getting sick, to my husband being forced to take a job where he wasn't home much that helped ruin my marriage.

However...I started thinking about other relationships that have indeed been killed because those people where Bush supporters.

...Please share your stories about how the bush administration has taken it's toll on your relationships; they can be stories from economy related to the personal. I promise you will feel better if you share :-)"

begone: Hmmm, my relationship with myself, mostly.

Before my head began exploding a few years ago in response
to Busharama, I'd exercise a lot... I mean, almost daily, joyous-type
exericising. Now I come home with a slight frown on my face and
come here to hear the news & be a mojo-mama even if too
tired to comment, and hang for hours here and on other blogs,
as if the light will shine again and I'll be present to hear the
BREAKING news about that.

Bush, I blame you for my new-ish extra 20 pounds....

delphine: I haven't had a relationship since he took office.

But I can say that I've been trashed by potential online dating partners for stating I couldn't date anyone who thinks bush is a good presznit....

cowgirl: I have two co-irkers who are die hard Bushies. I've known them for years. Although we weren't all that close, I've spent time with them outside of work, spent many breaks and lunches together, and generally liked them a whole lot.

Eventually, their support for Bush got to the point where talking with them simply infuriated me. I'm still polite and cordial with them, but we don't hang out the way we used to. It's just hard to fathom their belief system. How can they not be angry at the war alone? That many deaths makes me sick to many stomach, and they support it? W.T.F.

I'm not a violent person, but the last few times I discussed politics with them, I had the strongest urge to thump them upside their pointy little heads...HARD.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, I guess.

Boadicaea: Somehow my family AND relationships are almost all at odds with me. If they're not pro-Bush, they're disparaging about my uphill efforts to do something about him ("You really think a march/what you write/a sign/etc. will make a difference?"). One of my oldest friends called me a "kook." And they all get frothy over who deserves their tax money.

The hardest is my dad, but he's steering clear of politics lately and I just spent six weeks with him with only a few mishaps. He's a retired USAF pilot and looks at everything as bad guys/good guys, liberal media, etc. We're both old enough now for thoughful avoidance; if I feel like the top of my head is about to blow off, I go somewhere far away. He knows why, but accepts it. We talk a lot about family and faith, so conversation isn't superficial.

There was an incident--he called me in to view a video he'd received in his email. Before I knew what it was, I was watching a smart bomb blow up a group of Iraqis--"bad guys"--while my dad raved about our advances in weaponry. He absolutely had no awareness of my reaction to the video and to his enjoyment of it.

I was down the hall, thinking I would puke, when he hollered "Do you want to see it again?" I knew if I said anything but no we'd have a horrible and fruitless spat, so I just disappeared for a few hours....

meldroc: Bush has also damaged my mental health.

After I actually took the trouble to inform myself about politics a couple years ago, and learned the true extent of the damage Bush has done to this country, I have a constant boiling rage inside me. Absolutely constant. Never ceases, though sometimes I can get it down to a simmer so I can go out in public and hang out with friends without doing something stupid. On top of the anger is a generous dose of fear and anxiety, coming directly from the Bush administration's march to fascism.

Frequently, I'm so intensely angry that I hit things. I just broke my bookshelf today because I hit it. My knuckles have decent callouses on them from hitting things, and various pieces of my property show signs of my rage. Thankfully, I've never turned violent against people since I was in high school, though I was sorely tempted to deviate the septum of a wingnut who called me a traitor and f*ggot to my face at the anti-war march last Saturday.

Of course, it's unhealthy to harbor this much anger, especially if I'm stuffing it down all the time so people around me don't see me acting borderline psychotic. These emotions leak out, turn into other emotions, like depression, which I've fought with since college. I've also developed a venomous hatred of Bush and his cronies and the 23-percenters that support him. Hatred's never a good emotion to hold, but there it is. I literally hate those motherf*ckers who are destroying our country.

By all rights, I should be getting help, but I'm not going to. I was soured on the psychiatry business by my experience with anti-depressants - I ended up nearly emotionless, apathetic, and lost my motivation and creative drive, and as a result, I was unemployed for three years and had to move back in with my parents. I was your classic anti-depressant zombie. They didn't like the changes to my personality either, and stopped paying for the meds. After I tapered off the anti-depressants, I got my drive back, I was able to find work as a software engineer again, move into my own apartment, and now I'm supporting myself again. On top of that, if I told a counselor about my feelings, or that I'm so afraid of my government that I literally spent several hundred dollars on a shotgun, a deadly weapon, to defend myself against my government, I'm afraid I could get thrown into the psych ward. And I value my freedom enough that I will not allow that to happen under any circumstances. So, no shrinks.

I haven't talked to my best friend and ex-roommate in weeks because of a few personal issues between us, including politics - he's Republican, and though he's no fan of Bush, he constantly mocks and belittles my politics when I talk to him. So I don't."

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Its their liberal world view. We have had 6 spectacular years of prosperity and they still talk themselves into a funk.

Actually, I'm glad to hear it. Liberals want our whole nation to suffer under their socialism. Its only fair they impose that pain on themselves.
OMFG

I can not believe this. Can liberals take responsibility for anything they do???!!!
I really hope that these people cited do not have children. I really, really hope that. Their level of stupidity and hatred must be genetic, and, really, it needs to be removed from the gene pool.
This post must warm the hearts of any psychiatrists stopping by -- these entries would work well in a textbook on the pathological thought-life of losers. They are losers, not because of economic or social situation, but because they wallow in hatred and negativity and take little personal responsibility for their situations while blaming someone who has no responsibility for their lack or failure.
Damn those people need some serious help and or they should run for office....heh.
these entries would work well in a textbook on the pathological thought-life of losers.


LOL. I was thinking the same thing as I read their remarks. The last one, meldroc, is the very definition of a BDS-sufferer.
The recurring theme in all of this is "I'm OK, perfectly fine, normal, and middle of the road in everything in my life; BUT all of these things (Bush, politics, The War in Iraq, etc.) have caused my perfect life to spiral out of control, while everything around me crashes and burns."

It never occurs to these freaks that THEY may be the problem? "...but the last few times I discussed politics with them, I had the strongest urge to thump them upside their pointy little heads...HARD." And some of our more vocal trolls call Conservatives "angry, violent, and hate-filled"???

As James Earl Jones said in Field of Dreams says, "You've got a whole TEAM of psychiatrists working on you, don't you?"
Damn that Bush! Is there ANYTHING he won't do?
Honestly, though, if there's one quote that sums all of these people up, or perhaps ALL BDS sufferers up...
Bush has also damaged my mental health.

Sorry, buddy. It was already damaged.
I wonder who they would blame if a donkey was in the WH. Because these are simply life's losers: people destined to amount to squat. Unfortunately they aren't even bright enough - or is the issue the liberal self esteem propaganda of the last few decades - to know the problem is with them.
Posted by AlexinCT
October 29, 2007 11:05 AM |

They'd find someone else to blame if a conservative wasn't a handy target, I'm sure. In Liberaland™, it's always someone else's fault that their lives aren't idyllic paradises full of fluffy clouds and unicorn giggles. Admitting personal responsibility is anathema to them, because it means they're mistaken about something, and that they may need to change some things in their lives. It's far easier' to pin the tail on the conservative, you see.
"I wonder who they would blame if a donkey was in the WH."

Remember, these are the sanctimonious idiots who blamed "overbuilding" for the Malibu fires, forgetting that they were the "overbuilders" in the
first place.
begone:
...
Bush, I blame you for my new-ish extra 20 pounds....

This reads exactly like the satire we write about them, except they really believe it.
Posted by ebrown2 October 29, 2007 12:34 PM

Well those fires are a direct consequence of the green enviro-nuts getting their way. Overbuilding was not close to being the problem. See, the left forgets, or too often wants to ignore, that there are consequences to actions. Stop all logging and forest clearing activity for whatever idiotic Gaia induced high reason, and you end up in a giant tinder box. Eventually it will all go up in smoke. I am not expecting the MSM to point any of this out, and I am certain nobody will take the necessary actions to prevent this in the future, so we will see more of this again. Their ability to ignore reality and blame others for the problems they cause is astounding. Sad really.
These sound like one of my sisters.

Everything in her life - 2 failed marriages, a truant son, can't quit smoking, 60lbs overweight -is the fault of ChimpyBushMcHitler (or the american taliban). She started on this last summer. I shut her up with "so, if a liberal democrat wins next year all of your problems will go away. If GWB is the problem then replacing him should cause you to quit smoking, C****or will go to school and you will loose 60lbs." She hasn't talked to me since.

Though if replacing GWB would cause a 60lb weight loss then I'm in.
/sarcasm
I haven't laughed so hard in a long long time! That was priceless!
This is the funniest damn thing I've read in ages. It makes me feel better to know that people that drink the KOs kool-aid really are that stupid.
These people need to seriously be checked for any sort of brain activity.
Still not one of the worst things I had read.

A female on a board I used to participate in (if anyone is interested it was Wil Wheaton's board, I am a Star Trek fanatic) had a husband that was generally neutral on the whole issue of both Bush and the War (by her description - he just didn't care and was happy either way). He was terribly nonsupporting of her in that he didn't agree with everything she said (almost a direct quote, apparently "support" in a marriage means she is always correct and to be followed). She had discussed a divorce with the people on the board before over that but had decided to at least give him a while.

Then one night, with her being psychic and all, she had a dream where he abused her - she called the police and had him charged with domestic violence. Needless to say the whole system was *terribly* unsupportive when they found out she was pressing charges because of a dream, in fact they just weren't very nice at all and threatened to take her to jail if she did that again. Apparently they don't understand what dreams mean to psychics and how much that traumatized her, if they did he would be in jail for a LONG time. Several months later she was still terrified and couldn't sleep over the abuse he had done to her (in that dream).

Needless to say that one resulted in a divorce, IIRC she didn't get very much in the divorce settlement either - just another case of the Man putting the good leftists down.

For the most part the board was *very* supportive of her and couldn't figure out why the bastard wasn't in jail, her feelings were important too! I also wish I had copied some of the poems she wrote (she was also a self proclaimed Muse) as they were quite funny also.
Posted by strcpy
October 29, 2007 4:43 PM

That story, as well as these quotes, beg the question: WTF is wrong with people?! Is bipolar disorder really so prevalent in America?
delphine: I haven't had a relationship since he took office.

But I can say that I've been trashed by potential online dating partners for stating I couldn't date anyone who thinks bush is a good presznit....

So, let's review:

Looking for dates online.
Won't date anyone who doesn't think the way she does politically.
Hasn't had a relationship since Bush took office.

Ergo - It's Bush's fault she's a hyper-partisan, um, female dog who can't get a date.

You'd think one of her Cheeto-stained political kin would take her up on it. Or maybe she's just a fat, ugly person with no personality and is miserable all the time.

But I'm sure that's Bush's fault, too.
Maybe its good that these libs don't get into relationships and potentially reproduce, though abortion usually negates that anyway.
What horribly pathetic little people. This is something I just will never be able to understand. Here's a hint: if you're letting the relatively modest differences between any of the candidates with a snowball's chance in hell of winning effect your relationships with your friends and loved ones, you need to go out and GET YOURSELF A GRIP. If you're letting relatively these relatively modest differences effect your health, your worldview, or your ability to interact with people whose views differ from yours, you need to go out and GET YOURSELF A GRIP. Your life isn't falling apart because of George Bush or Hilary Clinton or Rudy Giuliani. It's falling apart because you've chosen to completely screw up your priorities in life to the point of putting more emphasis on the news than your life.
Ever since Ike said "The buck stops here.", Liberals have been passing it on the President they hate ever since. And yes, that means taxes too.
Meldroc went out and got a shotgun, and admits that he hits things in fits of rage. The boy needs help.
It's falling apart because you've chosen to completely screw up your priorities in life to the point of putting more emphasis on the news than your life.

Posted by Bill_Dalasio
October 29, 2007 6:52 PM |


How in the world can I be expected to be responsible for myself? Isn't that what the GOVERNMENT'S for?
/lib off
Please John Hawkins, can you call the kos people "kosidiots" or something similar instead of Kossacks? Thanks. Also, thanks for continuing to show us how idiotic the Kosidiots are.
The ultimate in BDS. The end all of end alls. I have heard everything there has been available to hear now.

Marriages and relationships...bush Did It.

How truly pathetic is that?
If a man didn't like bush, whyever would he even consider getting married?
"I'm not a violent person, but"

Uh-huh.

Hypocrites.

The first time I read reactions like this was a thread that I happened upon long ago at democratic underground. I was truly shocked and appalled. Now it doesn't surprise me at all.
Cartman: Because BushHitler and the Religious Nuts are keeping his gay marriage from happening!

I have the opposite story of these Kos Kidz. I got married in '94, and we struggled like many young couples do. By the time 2000 rolled around, we were on our feet, and are currently doing ok. Never once did I blame Clinton for my early troubles, nor do I credit Bush for my current situation.

I have a moonbat brother who insists that the 90's were all peace, love and roses, and that our current "hellish" situation will be reversed by Hillary. I always tell him my story, and point out that he's not doing so bad either. I'm chipping away, slowly but surely....





Posted by Dr_Remulak
October 30, 2007 12:10 AM |

My story is a bit like yours. Back in the 90's, I absolutely detested Clinton, but that was because I thought he was dragging our country through the mud (in many ways), contributing to the moral decay of society, and mortgaging our grandkids' inheritance, not because I held him personally responsible for anything that hadn't gone right in my life. (Though maybe if he hadn't pursued so many boneheaded economic policies, I'd have had better luck finding a job back at the end of 2000 when I graduated from college.)

My girlfriend was extremely liberal when I met her - antiwar rallies, women's studies classes in college, the works. I told her one day that as long as we agreed on who God was, the politics didn't matter.

Today, she is downright moderate and has already nixed the possibility of voting for Shillary ("I don't think this country is ready for a female president."). She credits her rightward shift to the fact that I was able to articulate conservative positions to her instead of simply yelling slogans the way her leftist friends had been doing.

Admittedly, spending 2 years as a civilian working on an Air Force base didn't hurt her, either. She got a chance to see that the military is made of human beings, not cold-blooded killing machines.
Blaming someone else for your problems is simply human nature. Hell, racial minorities have been doing it for years.

It's slamming the door on that crap and taking responsibility for your own life, that goes against the grain.
he called me in to view a video he'd received in his email. Before I knew what it was, I was watching a smart bomb blow up a group of Iraqis--"bad guys"--while my dad raved about our advances in weaponry. He absolutely had no awareness of my reaction to the video and to his enjoyment of it

I was down the hall, thinking I would puke


Oh, how very sensitive of him/her/it!
Actually I want to puke now. ;-)

"Trench Raider"

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say these posters were wack jobs with bad relationships to begin with. Way to project blame, Kossacks.
"I wonder who they would blame if a donkey was in the WH."

(1) Republicans in general for stopping the donkey's perfect plans
(2) Talk Radio
(3) Jews

It's sad but I've seen the three blamed often enough to figure they'll continue to take heat from deranged lefties.
Meldroc went out and got a shotgun, and admits that he hits things in fits of rage. The boy needs help.

Posted by 1redthread
October 29, 2007 8:14 PM |


Actually, he seemed the best of the lot.

meldroc: ... On top of that... I literally spent several hundred dollars on a shotgun, a deadly weapon, to defend myself against my government ... I value my freedom


A strong Second Amendment guy like that needs to be nurtured.
Meldroc went out and got a shotgun, and admits that he hits things in fits of rage. The boy needs help.

Posted by 1redthread
October 29, 2007 8:14 PM |


Actually, he seemed the best of the lot.

meldroc: ... On top of that... I literally spent several hundred dollars on a shotgun, a deadly weapon, to defend myself against my government ... I value my freedom


A strong Second Amendment guy like that needs to be nurtured.
grrr... how do you delete double(triple) posts on this forum?
Funny, Boadicaea, naming itself after a heroic bloody revolutionery, gets all skoogie about actually killing one's enemies. Hmmmm...

Why do these fools lose relationships? I can't figure it out. Why, hatefilled foaming depressives who see everything as falling apart, spiraling out of control, beyond hope and in utter dispair, whose lives are totally ruined and irreparably damaged - man, those are the folks I want to hang out all day with! Yeeeeehaw!
Yep, all through the Clinton years my husband and I struggled. We spent three years in a hell-hole with one working drain - in the bathtub. Dish water had to be carted out to the curb or dumped in the bathtub. Add to that a sewer that randomly decided to back up in our bathroom sink from time to time, and it was mega-gross. But it was what we could afford, and it got us through the years of me finishing my degree and my husband's struggle to find anything good in a college town glutted with degrees.

Funny, I never once blamed Clinton for any of that although I didn't like him. We simply had to keep working hard and pay our dues and keep clawing for something better.

In the end, husband managed a pharmaceutical job where he's climbing the ladder in quality control, and we now have our own home. I work with the learning disabled (something amazingly satisfying) and am going to return for a Masters in Speech Pathology next fall.

It's a long way from where we were, and we got there in spite of who ran the country no matter how you look at it, and we will continue to work hard for what we get.
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