Although I didn't see the original post, I heard rumblings about this story yesterday:
"A lesbian activist who runs the weblog "Pam's House Blend" has banned one of the people who posts on her site after the comments there, which often are bizarre and hateful, suddenly shifted to what could have been perceived as criminally violent recently.The postings on "House Blend" targeted Peter LaBarbera, the president of the pro-family Americans for Truth, which works to publish a message of hope for those caught in the homosexual lifestyle.
The column posted LaBarbera's home address in a thread titled, "Saturday this and that," and a short time later, a poster identified as "Barry G. Wick" said, "It's across from a park in an area with cul de sacs. I'd bet it's a residence … and across from a park. Snipers take note."
"'Wick' later seemed to suggest that shooting LaBarbera would amount to an act of self-defense, when he wrote: 'Self-defense for gay folks isn't PC, is it? No, we have to be sure that we're victims all the time. … When we start standing up for ourselves, we lose all the status of an under class. I refuse to be part of an underclass. I'm equal. And I'm gonna use any language, even outrageous language, to get my point across. … I'm a citizen … equal, proud, and willing to defend my way of life with my life. …'" according to a statement from Concerned Women for America.
"Later in the same thread 'Wick' made his true intent clear: 'If I were Azerbaijani and living in Russia right now, I'd want to advocate violence against skinheads … [LaBarbera] and others like him ought to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what future awaits them from a cadre of selected defenders willing to give up everything in order to protect the lives of gay and lesbian citizens. The greatest thing ever to happen to the [Martin Luther King] movement was the Black Panthers. Americans were shocked by an open display of firearms and Black Pride … Pushing back verbally … or with selected action isn't dishonorable, it's necessary,'" the statement said.
LaBarbera indicated that he had been in touch with both the FBI and the North Carolina Attorney General's Office, because of the effect on his family. "This is nothing short of cyber-terrorism," said Matt Barber, CWA's policy director for cultural issues.
After the apparent threats were publicized, Pam Spaulding, the lesbian activist who runs the site, sent LaBarbera an e-mail, "stating that she did not know that the violence-justifying posts against me were on her blog," LaBarbera noted."
You shouldn't blame Spaulding for this since one of her commenters, who was later banned, was responsible, but it is worth noting that this isn't the first time liberals have posted addresses of their political enemies online and have encouraged violence towards them.
This isn't really all that different from what happened to Michelle Malkin back in April of last year. The death threats towards Malkin's family back then got so bad that she had to remove one of her kids from school and move.
Again, I'm not blaming Spaulding for this, but I will say this about the whole left side of the blogosphere: when liberals constantly tell their audiences that conservatives are evil Nazis, who want to form a theocracy and may have been behind 9/11, is it a big surprise that you have someone posting a conservative's address and suggesting that, "Snipers take note?"
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Michelle Malkin, and I'm assuimng LaBarbera, are not inflamatory outrageous personalities but somehow their persuers have become convinced that they have a truly evil nature that justifies this kind of scary stuff.
Posted by soberannie
2007-02-09 13:24:12
Posted by jimg
2007-02-09 13:28:37
Barry G. Wick needs to be picked up and charged with assault.
Mr. La Barbera should file a complaint and demand that authorities find out who Mr. Wick is and arrest him.
Afterward Mr. Barbera should protect his family and others, such as Malkin, by suing this guy out of house and home.
Ann Coulter types should have a battery of attorneys working on commission(?) pursuing these people at all times. Some young attorney could make a fortune doing this for a group of commentators willing to fund him. Maybe start a "Commentators Protection Association".
If this is not done, it will just get worse.
Posted by Clay5
2007-02-09 13:36:03
That is why these events disproportionately occur and/or are sanctioned (actively or passively) by liberals.
Posted by PaulN33
2007-02-09 13:56:39
Posted by seschub
2007-02-09 14:17:31
That is why these events disproportionately occur and/or are sanctioned (actively or passively) by liberals.
Posted by PaulN33
February 9, 2007 1:56 PM |
That is the dumbest statement I have seen in awhile. The right has just as many kooks as the left, dont lay this on liberals, call it for what it is, kooks on the left but not all liberals.
Posted by crthns
2007-02-09 14:22:55
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
2007-02-09 14:34:55
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
2007-02-09 14:34:55
February 9, 2007 2:22 PM
I don't know, guys, I'm inclined to agree with crthns on this one. This Barry G. Wick fellow is a nutter, no doubt about it, but his violent derangement isn't indicative of the normal behavior of our left-leaning countrymen. That's stretching it a bit too far for my taste.
Posted by Good_Ol_Boy
2007-02-09 14:37:08
Nobody's got a monopoly on loons. Move on, and try to get out more.
Posted by rastus
2007-02-09 14:40:15
Nobody's got a monopoly on loons. Move on, and try to get out more.
Posted by rastus
2007-02-09 14:41:04
Posted by rastus
2007-02-09 14:41:33
There. And now, back to this particular point....
I wonder what steps were taken beyond banning the poster. Did the host of the blog notify the authorities about such a threat? A few times over the past year we did have people drop threats similar to this or more so and the blog host did notify law enforcement. Wasn't that the case in the Colorado situation a few months back, that teacher that left a threat or something on a blog roll?
Posted by Corperate_Cabana
2007-02-09 15:33:08
Rastus, do all conservatives a huge favor. Find a "loon" who has advocated violence or commited violence against a liberal public figure and then prove that conservatives exalted him for doing so.
Until you can do that, please be quiet.
Since I can't think of any. I expect silence from you on this subject.
The argument you'll hear is twofold
1) Liberals seem to be far more prone to advocating violence when posting on blogs.
2) Liberals uniformly defend other liberals who advocate violence.
I'm not saying that there haven't been a few right wing "loons" out there. There have been some. HOWEVER, they are quickly pointed out and then shunned by the right which doesn't tolerate immoral or sociopathic behaviour. Yet, your friends on the left revel in taking scalps and refuse to shun your problem children.
If your side was quicker to smack down those that went over the top with their rhetoric, there might be a lot more civility in politics.
Posted by mvargus
2007-02-09 15:39:57
February 9, 2007 2:37 PM
Again, true enough, G_O_B. But that isn't what I voice as a concern. It's the tenor a couple of notches down on the looney scale that bothers me. On the right, we tend to push people back into the land of the sane. On the left, I just don't see it. No, I'm not comparing Michael Moore, or even the TruthTellers to Wick. But, when people on the right start moving into the fringes inhabited by Moore, or the TruthTellers, the right tends to ask them what sort of crack they've been smoking. I don't see this happening on the left. As a result, its hardly surprising that there's a continuing advance of the fringes. I mean, rastus can cough all he wants about dead abortion providers, but guys who kill abortionists are hardly looked on as conservative folk heros. Compare that to the left's treatment of groups like ELF.
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
2007-02-09 15:41:51
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
2007-02-09 15:57:04
February 9, 2007 3:41 PM
I can't argue with you on those points. Good post.
Posted by Good_Ol_Boy
2007-02-09 16:00:46
I’m not blaming you for anything bad (baby killer), but you wanna’ take the partisan wax out of your ears long enough to hear that this is NOT what very many of us are saying, your fantasies of liberal oppression aside.
I’ve finally realized that this site has little to offer those of us who want to engage in conversations with our fellow Americans of a different, um…political persuasion. Oh, that’s right, you aren’t running this website to engage in any sort of honest inquiry, you’re running it to make yourself some money by inflaming the base, with the side-benefit of being able to blow off some of your oh-so-righteous anger. "Red meat! Red meat! Come and get it boys!" Sort of a minor-league Rush Limbaugh of the web, without, I presume, the dope.
Given your infatuation with finding and (re-)posting lunatic and near-lunatic left-leaning blog poster quotes to inflame your no less intemperate audience, I suggest a new title/subtitle for your little piece of web real estate,
Rightwingnuts.com
Infamous Quotations from Nutjob Leftwingers and the Nutjob Rightwingers Who Foam at the Mouth Over Them
But again, I’m not saying anything bad about you (closet fascist), just that you should be a lot nicer than you are…uh-huh.
As for the ignorant nutjob above who had the gall to post this, “You see, on the right, the kooks are ostracized and essentially persona non grata” I have but two words to counter this ridiculous assertion…Ann Coulter.
Posted by hanna692
2007-02-09 16:37:59
February 9, 2007 4:37 PM,
So, was Coulter invited to sit with a former Republican president at the convention? Did Republican candidates run approvingly citing her work? Do you expect anyone to seriously view her as more extreme to one side than say Moore or the 9/11 Truthers are to the other?
Oh, wait, I forgot. Facts, evidence, and logic don't really enter into the equation when dealing with your ilk. Just the third rate ad hominem of a fourth rate mind. hanna, why don't you go back to your bong. I'm sure you can make a nice tea from the water.
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
2007-02-09 16:48:20
You see any liberals exalting this fool, fool?
Posted by rastus
2007-02-09 17:19:04
February 9, 2007 3:41 PM |
Posted by Good_Ol_Boy
February 9, 2007 4:00 PM |
I see that both of you actually do not want to believe the worst of us left wingers. Despite the evidence of the media to the contrary, I hope I can reassure you the political divide is not as big as some make out. We have our loons, but they do not really speak for us. Most of us leftists are just as fearful of the government as conservatives. The right fears that the gov't favors unions, the left fears the gov't favors the corporations. All Americans fear the gov't favors somebody. True?
Posted by robert_miller
2007-02-09 18:44:31
February 9, 2007 6:44 PM
Mr. Miller,
Believe me, I understand what you're saying. Heck, my wife and her family self-identify as liberal Democrats (yeah, it does make for some interesting conversations. heh.). What ultimately bothers me is the trend. I increasingly see the left failing to call out its more extreme elements. As a result, what's considered extreme strikes me as moving further and further away from the center. Moreover, it strikes me that the extreme elements are increasingly dominating your side's conversation. As a result, I'm a little concerned that the future of your side of the aisle might belong more to the likes of hanna692 than to folks like you, D-Vega, libliever, or huckupchuck. Don't get me wrong, as a conservative and Republican, "Yay, the other team's gone schizo. Winning'll be easy", but as an American, not so much. Maybe I'm misreading things. I hope I am. Maybe the same thing is going on on my own side, and I'm missing it. Hopefully, no. But, from where I'm sitting, it would be good for everyone if the non-insane left asserted itself strongly aginst the radicals.
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
2007-02-09 19:24:25
Unlike the conservatives that call liberals evil socialists? To me that has been and will be one of Bush's surviving legacies: we are more divided and have less tolerance for each other than ever before. (Civil war excepted)
Posted by Let_It_Be
2007-02-09 19:28:12
February 9, 2007 4:37 PM |
Where have YOU been? Visit often. Please.
Posted by Let_It_Be
2007-02-09 19:32:04
These days, it seems the government mainly favors the government.
Posted by CavalierX
2007-02-09 20:43:19
Not a very well bolted one, but a regular, nonetheless.
Posted by soberannie
2007-02-09 20:54:16
Her whining post up there is typical. This time whining about lack of discussion when just yesterday, Hanna, there was a beautiful discussion. So sorry you missed it. Which proves, you wouldn't know polite discourse or even diagreement if it bit you in the butt.
Posted by soberannie
2007-02-09 20:56:56
Good thing she's regular, then.
Posted by CavalierX
2007-02-09 21:23:30
February 9, 2007 7:24 PM |
I see your point. But that means I would have to post "over there".
Posted by robert_miller
2007-02-10 14:18:30
February 9, 2007 7:24 PM |
So do mine. I am the conservative in her family. LOL
Posted by robert_miller
2007-02-10 14:24:23
Posted by Bill_Dalasio
February 9, 2007 3:57 PM |
Another piece of shorthand I'm unfalmiliar with. What is 87D?
Posted by robert_miller
2007-02-10 16:11:02
February 9, 2007 6:44 PM
Good post, Robert. And yes, I'd like to think that I don't buy in to the wide-brush, blanket accusations against my left-leaning countrymen, but I'll admit that there are times when it's awfully difficult not to.
I don't believe that the majority of Democrats are evil. Personally, I think that they're intentions are probably good for the most part. However, those intentions are often childishly naive and don't take the consequences of their actions into account.
Posted by Good_Ol_Boy
2007-02-11 11:48:08
Posted by trying_to_grok
2007-02-12 08:50:32
Sadly, that is the price of fame (or infamy, depending on how you look at it) these days.
Posted by mightysamurai
2007-02-12 09:18:16
February 12, 2007 8:50 AM
That is horrible! I hope that you and your parents contacted the authorities. It just begs the question: WTF is wrong with people?!
Aside: I love your screen name. Stranger In a Strange Land was a magnificent work of fiction.
Posted by Good_Ol_Boy
2007-02-12 09:22:43